but if libertarians had their way, they would prefer him to the guy who was just in there, leon panetta. >> rand paul is an intriguing character, if for no other reason than he always maintainses a very, very calm demeanor, but fires some heavy broadsides at the same time, one of which he fired at secretary of state hillary clinton during the benghazi hearing. let's take listen to what he said. >> and had i been president at the time and i found that you did not read the cables from benghazi, you did not read the cables from ambassador stevens, i would have relieved you of your post. i think it's inexcusable. >> your reaction? >> wow. look, here is the thing, rand paul, his dad, they're both doctors, but they're hugely different demeanors. his father gets wound up and he let's it rip and it makes people happy inside the libertarian conservative base. but rand paul says things of equal or sometimes greater potency, but you saw there, he delivers it as dead pan. it just comes across as this very even tone which is part of actually the way that he's been able to become more of a main strea